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pterodactyl commented on the word new interface
As soon as I saw that there was a new Wordnik interface, I was ready to hate it. I loved the old interface so much, I just assumed that any change would be bad.
Turns out I was wrong. Now that I've had a chance to play around with the new interface, I find I quite like it. The colors, especially, are a welcome addition. And I'm pleased to see that you kept the most important part of Wordnik's visual layout: lots and lots of white space. Bravo, Wordnik gnomes! Well done!
I do have one minor complaint. Across the top of each word page is a navigation menu, consisting of the words "Love", "Define", "Relate", "List", "Discuss", "See", "Hear", and "Share". I'm glad that these navigation links are present, but I think the words that were chosen to represent each link are cryptic and confusing. (Why all verbs?) When I first saw them, I had no idea what they did, and so I was afraid to click on them.
My suggestion is that you get rid of these verbs and replace them with the names of the sections that they link to. Thus, the words across the top would read "Love", "Definitions", "Related Words", "Lists", "Comments", "Visuals", "Audio", and "Share". That way, people could tell what they do.
June 18, 2011
pterodactyl commented on the word new interface
I posted my previous comment about twenty seconds ago, and yet Wordnik says I posted the comment "about 9 hours ago". Perhaps this bug is associated with the new interface?
June 18, 2011
pterodactyl commented on the word new interface
I second ruzuzu's comment on the Feedback page. The reverse dictionary is teh alsome.
June 18, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
Having a reverse dictionary will certainly cut down on my obsessive tagging. :-)
June 18, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
Wow. That's what I get for being away for a week or so. Need to go figure this out now....
June 18, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
And the previous comment, which I posted a few seconds ago, has time-traveled and was apparently posted 15 hours ago. *scratches head*
June 18, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
Love the font on Comments! The one used for comments below links is a bit hard on the eyes, though. I think someone else mentioned that it would be great if the Comments section were higher up on the page rather then relegated to the bottom half. :-)
June 18, 2011
raven_in_the_woods commented on the word new interface
I'm trying to deal, but I found the Old Interface to be the best anywhere. This new scheme looks like the cover art for Hector and the Search for Happiness. Not so good; help.
June 18, 2011
PossibleUnderscore commented on the word new interface
I have to admit, it's probably going to take me a while to get used to this but it's definitely not bad! I love the new love button.
:)
Edit: is the love button akin to 'Favourite'?
June 19, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
- I can't find the formatting popup window. Is it missing?
- Log in or sign up to add words to this list appears when you visit a non-open list, whether you are logged in or not.
June 19, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
I'm very, very confused by you, new interface.
I know I will get used to you, but then I wonder, what would I think of a website I visit for the first time if I couldn't understand it in fifteen minutes?
June 19, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
bug (screenshot)
June 19, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
More comments on the Feedback page.
June 20, 2011
dontcry commented on the word new interface
"Love"? Really? Kinda going the way of "Community" in my book...
June 24, 2011
dontcry commented on the word new interface
Sorry to be so negative. I do like the colors.
June 24, 2011
rolig commented on the word new interface
I don't mind the "love" button. Though normally I would agree with you, Dontcry, about the way so many Internet conventions cheapen the meanings of words ("friend" of course being the classic example), the fact is that a lot of people do love words, so "love" seems OK to me. But shouldn't there also be a "hate" button? Or is Wordnik now all about sweetness and light? (Despite the funereal black banner that makes the page seem like it's in mourning.)
June 24, 2011
oroboros commented on the word new interface
It would be nice to have the option, on the word page (in addition to adding the word) to delete a word from one's list as opposed to having to go to the list page and deleting it there. Or am I overlooking something?
June 24, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
I love you, rolig.
June 24, 2011
oroboros commented on the word new interface
What happened to the translation feature on the word page? Has it just been deleted or forgotten...or, again, am I just missing something?
June 25, 2011
blafferty commented on the word new interface
I thought the old interface was lovely and simple, and I'm sad. And the t tail thing annoys me. I like the possibilities of some of the new functions, but it's going to take a while for that to outweigh the unfamiliarity.
June 28, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
FYI lowercase t looks normal on my Macbook (Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari).
June 28, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
It looks normal on my iPhone, too.
June 28, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
Pro, just mentioned the same on blafferty's profile page--lc "t" looks fine on my MacBook, not so fine on my PC.
June 28, 2011
blafferty commented on the word new interface
Hm, I'll have to test this.
June 28, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
A reduction of the activity of a website after a revamping is probably physiological, but after 3 weeks of new interface the "community" page shows comments that are 48 hour old.
I'm starting to think tat I am not the only luddite scrogneugneu who hates change, in the end.
July 9, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
i see subtle changes like links in the 'add to list' list, but bugs are still occurring which is the reason this should have been available on a beta subdomain until the bugs were fixed.
July 9, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
Edit: my comments sounds passive-aggressive, and I apologize. It wasn't sarcasm - I thought it could be just me, but apparently it's not. There is something wrong with this site - unless your goal is only to make it a reference tool, of course.
July 9, 2011
frogapplause commented on the word new interface
Certain changes have depersonalized the community. For example, removing "first listed by". Madeupical words and phrases have now been stripped of their source.
July 9, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
It's part of the general depersonalization trend that has been going on since the merge. I have started to visit Wordnik mostly when I need to look up words, which is probably what was in the original plan.
July 9, 2011
zeke commented on the word new interface
Thanks for all the feedback. We are listening.
July 9, 2011
oroboros commented on the word new interface
I agree with Pro and frogapplause: the site really has the feel of reference emphasis. I miss the "first listed by" and other such personalizing features. Another thing that strikes me, although it may be transitory, is surprisingly long wait times.
July 9, 2011
Wordplayer commented on the word new interface
I have noticed that you can't reach the tags page anymore...This interface has a lot of bugs.
July 9, 2011
mollusque commented on the word new interface
Prolagus, this malaise has been affecting Wordnik for at least a year. Ten months ago on Erin's profile, I noted that Wordnik had only one tenth as many comments per week as Wordie used to. It's still at that anemic level, including all the comments and complaints about the new interface.
Zeke, you said, "Thanks for all the feedback. We are listening." You might be listening, but I don't think Wordnik the corporation is listening. In my comment ten months ago, I asked Erin "Where do you see Wordnik going?" I thought her response was just a pat on the head, but held my tongue at the time. The only meaningful thing she said then was "The next big goal, sitewise, is to make it easier for people to contribute in fun and interesting ways."
As we have seen, for the most part, that has not happened. Instead the site continues to be depersonalized, substituting mash-up for original content. That's understandable. That's where the profits lie. And Wordnik is a corporation, currently with 18 employees, and advertising for a Head of Business Development.
Notice that the Blog is active again, although this hasn't been mention under Community, and that it doesn't mention the site revamp. Or maybe it does, but there isn't a way to get to older blog posts. The Community just isn't important to Wordnik. There aren't enough of us contributing to make it worth the corporation investing much effort to keep us happy. I've been asking for an increase in the 20,000 character limit in list descriptions for about a year, and haven't even gotten a response to the comments, let alone a fix.
It's time to admit that we don't matter to corporate Wordnik, even though we do matter to a few of the employees.
July 10, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Thank you mollusque.
July 10, 2011
rolig commented on the word new interface
I don't think anyone has conspired to depersonalize the site, and I don't think that is what mollusque is saying. But compared to the hands-on, very personal character of John's original Wordie site, where there was great feeling of collegiality among the users and a sense that John was always doing his best to accommodate our requests and needs, Wordnik has always felt more like a corporate undertaking - despite Erin's unchanging friendliness - where the both the social aspect (of people talking about words, goofing around, making up words) and the desire to accommodate individual needs (like my Slovene word lists) have taken second place to I am not sure what: the dictionary? Wordnik's status as the "go-to" place for information about words? Personally, I liked it better when we had a choice of dictionaries to go to or could even offer definitions from other sources. In any case, with the transition to Wordnik, and especially with the new layout, I feel like the personal user-focused aspect (comments, histories of comments, listing history, ease and flexibility of lists and tags) has been downgraded to an "added feature", not the main thing.
July 10, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
I almost hate to say that I agree with Pro, frogapplause, mollusque, oro, rolig, et al., because somehow admitting it means it's so--but I'm feeling rather extraneous myself here lately. Like mollusque, I'm curious about where the Wordniks-That-Be see this site going. My feeling of late is that it may be traveling in a different direction than I'd hoped it would, and that makes me very sad indeed.
July 10, 2011
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July 11, 2011
rolig commented on the word new interface
Something in particular that I miss: an indication on the word lists of how many comments each word has received and how many lists it appears on. The reason I liked this was that when I listed an unusual word or phrase, I was always interested to find out, maybe even weeks or months later, if anyone else found this word or phrase interesting or had included it on a list. Now there is no way to know that.
As a general rule, it seems that if you are going to change the way something functions, you should make sure the new system does not remove useful information that the old system provided. Even with the change from Wordie to Wordnik, the Old Wordie used to give you links to a fairly wide list of dictionary and quasi-dictionary sources for a word. If you wondered about some current slang, you could easily click on the Urban Dictionary link; if you wanted to find out about the etymology, you had the Online Etymology Dictionary link. And if you knew about a good source of information about words (Prolagus, I remember, was all excited about Forvo), you would tell John and pretty soon you'd probably be seeing a link to that online source too. Now all we have is Century, Am. Heritage, Wiktionary, and Wordnet. The other 10 or 12 resource links from Old Wordie just aren't there. The result is you get the message: "These are the definitions," not "Here are a lot of good places where you can find a whole lot of different definitions and decide what it is you are looking for exactly. Oh, and by the way, if you come across another place that has good word information, let us know and we'll add it."
I miss Wordie.
July 11, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
As the android created by professor von schmartzenpanz and Duffel van der Pinkenhosen, I'm afraid I have to take umbrage with the notion that this "depersonalization" thing is somehow bad. What's so great about humans anyway? They get cranky, pull your hair, fight wars, pollute the environment--one minute they're talking about how interesting tigers are, and the next minute they've snuck off to some secret lair and won't even send a card at the holidays.
Sorry, what was I saying? I know it was something about tigers.
July 11, 2011
rolig commented on the word new interface
Another thing I miss: It used to be that if a certain comment on the Zeitgeist page (I miss "Zeitgeist", too, by the way) led me to click on a word, I was interested to see what lists it had been included on and by whom. Now I can still see various lists the word is on, but I don't know who listed it. If you are going to call it a "community", can we at least know who is participating? I might, for example, wonder why a word about birds isn't on any of Reesetee's lists, or be surprised to see that Chained_Bear has listed something on one of her medieval fortification lists, or ask myself how is it that Mollusque has missed some amazing panvocalic. Please, tell us whose lists the words are on. Where did you guys get the idea that less information is an improvement?
July 12, 2011
mollusque commented on the word new interface
Rolig, are you implying that some panvocalics are not amazing?
July 13, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
...and that I would ever leave a word about birds off my lists?
July 13, 2011
rolig commented on the word new interface
Mollusque, but surely some panvocalics are more amazing than others. And Reesetee, are you really claiming that you have every possible bird-word ever coined or ever to be coined already on one of your lists? Really? Your Wordie work is done, at least with regard to things ornithic? (Ahem, doesn't look like you have ornithic on any list, my friend.)
July 13, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
I forgot to wink. ;-> But please note that philornithic is currently my favorite word.
July 14, 2011
frogapplause commented on the word new interface
Wordies and wordniks are the pollinators of this site. We are the bees, butterflies, and hummingbirds that continue to add variety and original content. Pollinators tend to be attracted to “bright colors”. Wordnik now looks black and white to me.
July 16, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
What frogapplause said. I don't even know if I care that much anymore.
Does anybody even read these messages? No. And here's some evidence — there's a spam comment under rolig's comment and it's been there for a week now.
July 17, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Don't you like Hamlet?
July 18, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
Here is, in a few words, what happened. Wordie was bought by the Wordnik people because they liked the idea of users listing and "favoriting" words. They weren't interested in the social aspect. Over time, this has become more and more obvious, until the new interface arrived and simply put the comments and other social elements at the bottom of the page as a curiosity (and that is why comments share the bottom with the Twitter mentions). The mobile version doesn't have comments at all.
I have a request for you Wordnik guys: if it is true that you care about us, and yet you can't meet our needs and preferences on Wordnik.com, why not just give us a parallel space on the web, I don't know, wordie.wordnik.com fully dedicated to the social experience? It could simply use the Wordnik API (whatever that is) and use the information from the main website, without lowering the quality of your online reference website.
In other words: bring back Wordie for us troublemaking weirdos and keep Wordnik for students and teachers.
July 18, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
You don't like student productions of Hamlet?
July 18, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
I have remembrances of yours that I have longed long to re-deliver.
July 18, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
hey guys ... Rolig gave me a heads-up -- I'm afraid it's been really hectic over the past two weeks & I forgot that there were comments being left here. We've been scrambling to get the site redesign finished and not communicating as well as we ought to. But our priorities for the next two weeks are:
-- fix the big stag beetle-sized bugs
-- especially the login bugs that folks are still having
-- work on some data issues (ruzuzu especially has been helpful in pointing out stuff for us to fix)
Making it easier and more fun to interact with the site is still a goal, and a big one. We've just added a lot of tracking & process so that we be more on top of feature & bugfix requests I hope that this makes us faster and more responsive. Fingers crossed.
Email to feedback@wordnik.com will get answered (by me ... we're working on reducing our turnaround there) and you can always email me directly, too, at erin@wordnik.com. Or leave comments on my profile page. I'm re-bookmarking this page and will be back again shortly ...
July 18, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
Thanks! I was feeling guilty about not sending my usual barrage of e-mails during the past couple of weeks. Now that I'm home, I'll get right back on that (I ran into some trouble with a comma today).
July 18, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
Looking forward to your being back and answering my messages, Erin. Thank you.
July 19, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Even the official feedback page doesn't have an obvious link to it from either the Wordnik home page or the Community page. Roughly I remember where it is. I go to my own profile, rub out 'bilby' (I erase myself, mama) and type in 'feedback'. Feels like all the web sophistication of 1995.
July 19, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
That's because that page is only for Wordies, not for Wordniks, according to what they stated shortly after the merge. They would rather have users email them - which I never do, since I want the others to be aware of what is being discussed.
And this brings us back to the social experience issue.
Ever wondered why users who comment the most (i.e. participate the most in the community) are not featured on the "community" page?
July 19, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Well, the naqba was almost 2 years ago now. Since then the experience of the unsignposted feedback page is that noobs don't know where to go, end up having to post a wail on their own page or on a word page and longer-term users feel they need to pick these up and repost them on /feedback so site admin will find them. This is apparently fine.
As you know top commenters were featured on YOW.
July 19, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Featuring top comments and -ers is definitely on the wishlist of improvements for the community page.
We're also going to add a better (3rd-party) system for feedback. We think the current Feedback-profile lack-of-a-system is borked, too. :-(
ruzuzu, I got your comma-mail ... I hope you got my reply!
July 19, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
I did--thanks, Erin.
I hope the fact that I send e-mails about bugs and stuff doesn't make me seem antisocial. I spend a lot of time here, and I'm always worried that if I give in too much to my copy-editor tendencies, I'll take up too much of the community page and people will be scared away. I mean, I worry about that with all the regular stuff I post, anyway. :-(
July 19, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
Ruzuzu, you wouldn't believe how many of us have copyeditor tendencies. ;-)
Edit: Antisocial? You? HAHAHAHAHA!
July 19, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
Ah, my people!
Thanks, treeeees.
July 19, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
Erin: it's ok for me to wait ten more days to let you "finish the redesign" as you said. At that point I will assume that is how you (Wordnik.com) imagined the website to be and will be able to provide some final feedback. At that point I would appreciate if you (Erin, or some other staff members) took the time to answer my messages — especially the one from four days ago. Thanks and good luck with the revamping.
July 22, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
To answer mollusque's question, "Where do you see Wordnik going?":
(From Erin McKean's Wall Street Journal website column)
July 23, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
(And Ruzuzu -- we love your emails. Especially the series on the definition mismatches, because they have a lovely found-poetry quality.)
July 23, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Hi Prolagus -- I'll make sure to get to your message over the weekend. And over the next ten days we'll be tackling the most urgent issues, but the site won't ever be final (in the sense that nothing more will be done). We plan to tackle more of the feature backlog and add some new stuff, too.
July 23, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
sorry for any confusion there folks, was admin-ing the Baseball list and not signed in as me. :-)
July 23, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
Sometimes I love that found-poetry quality. It can make for fabulously hilarious misunderstandings.
July 23, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Bring it. I'm hanging out for a good hilarious misunderstanding.
July 23, 2011
blafferty commented on the word new interface
Is it just me, or is the lowercase t thing gone? Was the font changed and I didn't notice? Still using same platform and same browser, but not noticing it now. Nicer!
July 23, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Hi Prolagus -- was the message you wanted a reply to about featuring the Wordies with the most comments on the Community page? That sounds like a good idea to me. I'm going to put it on the feature list for that page.
July 25, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
Hi Erin,
Mine was actually a request to answer the many unanswered questions I posted here, and particularly the message that starts with "Here is, in a few words...".
I hope you or someone else will take the time to answer. Thank you.
P.
July 25, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Thanks Prolagus -- I found it.
I know it's hard to tell from outside, but we've spent a lot of time thinking about how to balance meeting the expectations of the folks who come to Wordnik to find information about a word, and the folks who stay at Wordnik because it's a congenial place to discuss and have fun with words. We're still working on this balance, but we're planning for more flexibility, especially around comments, and also possibly a feature where people can rearrange the order of elements on each page according to taste. :-) (I can't promise when this will happen but we think it's a highly desirable feature.)
It is highly unlikely, though, that we would be able to spin off a purely-social version of Wordnik. We just don't have the resources -- I'm sorry. And even if we could, it would make Wordnik another soulless flat definitions-only site (and the Internet is full-up on those, or was last time I checked).
The comments (and the tweets and the examples and the images and the tags and the lists, in addition to the definitions, synonyms, etc.) are part of giving a 360-degree view of every single word -- for Wordies and Wordniks and students and teachers and bad spellers and good spellers, and readers and people who just had an idle moment of curiosity, and we're going to keep changing and testing until we find better ways of giving everyone what they need for every word.
I hope this helps. Happy to answer what I can in more detail -- I just don't want to promise features and updates before we have firm dates for delivery.
July 25, 2011
blafferty commented on the word new interface
I must admit I am enjoying some of the new features on the word pages (especially now that the font difficulty has apparently been fixed).
July 26, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
Oh! The comments have dates now. Cool.
July 26, 2011
blafferty commented on the word new interface
Yes, I like that!
July 27, 2011
zeke commented on the word new interface
Hey insiders, I've rewritten the comments section from the ground up, so you should be able to CRUD with ease now. The new code is much cleaner, and the new commenting features will soon be making their way into the rest of the site. As always, be vocal if you have any trouble.
July 30, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
I like the dated comments too. Thanks for adding that.
July 31, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
I can't comment on lists or profiles, only words.
July 31, 2011
dharma66 commented on the word new interface
@erinmckean Spam ...here http://www.wordnik.com/lists/don-t-be-koi-with-me
and here
http://www.wordnik.com/people/shengxuan
July 31, 2011
dharma66 commented on the word new interface
I can not comment via Iphone, my screen freezes. This only happens on wordnik, not any other social sites. And I could not comment on feedback.
July 31, 2011
oroboros commented on the word new interface
Comment function is intermittent. The whole site is abominably slow. Edit: comment option works, but EXTREMELY slowly. Ditto for edit option; or it seems to work only intermittently.
July 31, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
thanks dharma66 -- I *think* I nuked that user and all their works.
The comment function is in dry dock for repairs and is intermittently sputtering ... we're working on it. When it is back it will be very, very shiny, we hope!
July 31, 2011
sionnach commented on the word new interface
bilby
Jul 31, 2011
I can't comment on lists or profiles, only words.
I have the same difficulty. In addition, the ability to view whole swaths of content that were previously accessible has now been taken away. To mention just one example, I can no longer read back through the list of comments that have been left on my profile.
Over the last six weeks, the most basic functions on the site -- creating lists and adding words to them -- have undergone a significant deterioration. At times it's altogether impossible to add words; if it is possible, the response time has slowed to a glacial pace, so that there is little incentive to add new words.
Then, as other users have already remarked, the ability to contribute to, or benefit from, what used to be a fairly lively discussion among the site's most committed members has continued to diminish, to the point of being close to impossible at this point. I have no idea whether or not this is the result of a deliberate effort by the site administrators to shut down what they seem to regard as commentary that is extraneous to the site's overall mission. This is partly because I no longer understand what that mission might be. But it's hard to avoid the impression that user comments are no longer valued, given that almost every one of the recent changes has made it harder, not easier, to conduct any kind of meaningful exchange.
Even the utility of the site as a reference resource has deteriorated since the change from Wordie -- useful links that were previously immediately accessible have been hidden or taken away altogether.
It's all just a tiny bit soul-crushing, to be honest.
August 1, 2011
oroboros commented on the word new interface
What sionnach said. Yes.
August 1, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Hi folks -- thanks for the feedback.
One problem with trying to make things like commenting faster/easier/better on the site is that, in the short term, making the deep structural changes that are necessary to scale & simplify actually makes things slower/harder/worse. :-(
There is absolutely NO intention on our part to "shut down" anything that Wordieniks are doing. (Spammers, yes. Wordieniks, no.) We want to make things better, and we understand it's frustrating while we're "under construction."
Please, if you can, keep the feedback coming, and we'll keep doing our best to finish up this renovation!
August 1, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
its never too late to roll out changes on a http://beta.wordnik.com/ subdomain rather than affect the main site with bugs.
August 1, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
If I log in to Wordnik from a word page, I would like to be redirected to the same page instead of my profile - mostly because I usually want to log in in order to reply to the thread.
August 1, 2011
dontcry commented on the word new interface
I'm checking in just now after a spell... wanted to see comments on two of the most comments lists: International House of Fufluns (6/6)
Where Is That Light Coming From? (5/6)
and no comments were found...?
*falls off porch in a quandary*
August 1, 2011
pterodactyl commented on the word new interface
I noticed the same thing on some of my lists, dontcry, and at first I was horrified. All our beautiful comments, gone! But then I spotted a comment from Erin on the Feedback page, saying that the comments feature is in "drydock" right now for repairs and revamping. I figure that means that our comments will be returning soon.
Incidentally, I just checked the Feedback page right now and found it completely comment-less, but I presume that's just another symptom of the "drydocking".
August 1, 2011
dontcry commented on the word new interface
*brushes bits of quandary off arms and legs*
Thanks, ptero!
August 2, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Prolagus, I just filed a ticket on that today (the return-to-page-after-login issue). Drives me nuts too.
August 2, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
im guessing comments are still drydocking i cant comment here: http://www.wordnik.com/lists/seaworthy-words but elsewhere i can.
August 2, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
on the login issue, if you're clicking the link from within an email it could auto log you in from the link itself and take you directly to the comment, skipping the process of even having to login.
August 3, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Hi guys -- quick update. We're still working on bringing comments back to lists and profiles. ETA (to allow for better smoke testing) is end of next week.
Just a reassurance: all comments are still in our system, they're just taking a breather ...
August 3, 2011
pterodactyl commented on the word new interface
Thanks, Erin! :-)
August 4, 2011
oroboros commented on the word new interface
@Erin. Much improvement in comment/edit comment option. Thanks!
August 5, 2011
sionnach commented on the word new interface
Thanks, Erin. User comments are my favorite feature on the site. (And certain users' lists)
August 5, 2011
yarb commented on the word new interface
Thanks for all the recent improvements and bug-fixes.
August 5, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Thanks folks! We'll keep working to get things shipshape(r) around here soon!
August 6, 2011
mollusque commented on the word new interface
Hi Erin,
Thanks for explaining more of what's going on behind the scenes. Any chance you could file a ticket to get the 20,000 character limit on lists descriptions raised? I've mentioned it several times before, but haven't gotten an answer as to whether it was possible or in the works. It's particularly a problem with my Panvocalic euryvocalic list, because each link to a sequence uses up 58 characters. If it's not possible to raise the limit, would it be possible to restore the "u=mollusque" syntax in place of (or in addition to) "?created_by=mollusque". That would shorten the links.
August 6, 2011
oroboros commented on the word new interface
Erin, is the translate feature going to make a comeback eventually? And is the font size in the comment box while entering and/or editing comments going to remain so tiny?
August 6, 2011
dontcry commented on the word new interface
*whines a bit*
I can't hear any pronunciations... Am I doing something wrong? Should I start pointing fingers around the house? Mr dontcry is still a little sore about the whole marmite experience... so he's suspect numero uno...
August 6, 2011
biocon commented on the word new interface
The repeated comment in the web page of nemorivagous is spam.
The example provided on the web page of ancipitous is a very long list of words and phrases instead of veritable sentences.
Thank you Erin and team for your diligent labors in ameliorating Wordnik.com.
August 7, 2011
oroboros commented on the word new interface
How do I access my recent comments? Try as I might, all I can access is comments from the first two weeks of my presence on Wordie. There is no "continue to next page" option.
August 7, 2011
sionnach commented on the word new interface
I have the same problem as oroboros regarding recent comments. When Wordie changed to Wordnik there was a very long transition period - several months - during which most comments were inaccessible. I remember being incensed at the time by the sudden, random disappearance of much of the site's most interesting content. I am not particularly incensed this time, because my expectations for the site are lower, but it strikes me as odd, and somewhat disappointing, that "improvements" still come with more than a little aggravation.
And yes, this font is very very tiny.
August 8, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Thanks folks -- another update. All the comments are still saved -- we're working on making them accessible again. We're thinking on the order of weeks, not months, this time ... the new pipes are laid; it's a matter of checking for leaks at this point.
For folks who are seeing tiny comment font -- can you let me know what browser you're using?
Biocon, thanks for the heads-up on nemorivagous; I've revoked that user's userhood.
Oroboros, I'm afraid the translate feature is being turned off by our friends at Google. There's a great article in The Atlantic that talks about why: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/06/an-economic-burden-google-can-no-longer-bear/240283/
dontcry, the audio was working earlier. We'll go kick it a little and see if we can wake it up ...
mollusque, ticket filed! We'll see what happens.
August 8, 2011
biocon commented on the word new interface
Using Firefox 5.0, the editing mode of the Comment facility of a word page is depicted in a tiny font.
August 9, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
Thanks biocon! I'll check it out!
oh -- btw, folks, if you're interested in working at Wordnik as well as playing on Wordnik, you can check out our new jobs page here: http://www.wordnik.com/jobs
August 9, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Eeek, geekfleet! I don't like any of those jobs. How about:
- Roving List Enhancer, With Jingle Bells
- Jocular Presence To Handhold Noobs
- Ruthless Spamhunter With Pointy Weapon And Little Mercy
- etc.
August 9, 2011
blafferty commented on the word new interface
Wait, don't you already have all of those jobs?
August 9, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
I'm a shoe in with blafferty writing my CV.
August 9, 2011
dharma66 commented on the word new interface
cloud architect, haha. I'd like to make clouds.
August 9, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
bilby, I will start writing up the spec for the Roving Link Enhancer, With Jingle Bells, but we're hoping to move that position towards the bleeding edge of Link Enhancement Technology ... do you think you could pick up the ah-ooga horn or the triangle, quickly?
August 9, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
That little ditty - ah-ooga horn, ah-ooga horn, ah-ooga all the way - was just written for me. Though I might draw the line at being a flying philanthropist in a furry fatsuit. The secret of the bleeding edge is of course to sharpen the triangle while I'm not looking ...
August 9, 2011
Wordplayer commented on the word new interface
Why can't we comment of each other profiles or lists anymore???
August 10, 2011
dharma66 commented on the word new interface
I miss commenting on lists also!
August 10, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
lists not updating in realtime as you add words..
whats the status on this bug fix?
August 10, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
were the comments even broken before? i don't understand whats going on there either.
August 11, 2011
erinmckean commented on the word new interface
The comments were broken on the inside. :-( Things are moving along, I hope to have more updates soon!
Profile comments will probably return first, then lists.
(bilby, triangle-sharpening is one of my specialities; that, and timpani-degreasing.)
August 11, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
Brackets around triangle-sharpening and timpani-degreasing, please!
August 11, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Timpani-degreaser, indeed!
We are the woolgatherers of swevens!
August 11, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
Who's Sweven?
August 11, 2011
dontcry commented on the word new interface
When I click on the arrow in the pronunciations section of each word's page, I hear no pronunciation -it just bumps me up to the very top of the page. And I'm only clicking on words listed in the most pronunciated section on the *community* page. I have no trouble hearing anything else on my computer...
August 11, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Sweven's a dreamy blonde girl who lives with Norgay and Funland.
August 12, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
*begins some complex calculations*
Tenzing Norgay... sherpa... mountain climbing... carry the two.... Aha! Norgay and Funland must be the names of the goats over on The Monty Hall Problem. Can you tell which doors they are standing behind?
August 12, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Yes, behind the fridge doors.
August 12, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
That makes sense--I've heard it can get pretty cold there.
August 12, 2011
sionnach commented on the word new interface
Are they well supplied with ramgoat dashalong? Nature's caprine aphrodisiac. Or so I'm told.
I didn't know they made fonts as tiny as this one. Is it a Firefox thing?
August 12, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
Norgay and Funland aren't even listed. Someone should make a list: Country Nicknames. bilby?
August 13, 2011
ruzuzu commented on the word new interface
I think uselessness or whichbe had one.
August 13, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
i hope u guys get all the new interface word pages to load faster too. the old pages like my list page and even the community page loads about 3-5 times faster on average. can't believe i'm the only one who notices this too. cmon, i remember when the whole site worked this fast. it was so nice.
August 13, 2011
oroboros commented on the word new interface
Erin: Yes, still tiny font (with Chrome browser). @bilby,'zu,sionnach, erin et al., hanks for the rib tickling irreverence!
Oh, and I have the same experience with pronunciation that dontcry has...
August 13, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Marky, I also notice the slowness of the page loading. It's like being in an Italian post office.
August 13, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
oh good im not the only one.. its a huge deal to me as i dont like wasting time.. its frustrating.
August 14, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
oroboros, i have the tiny font situation in the text fields on comments, i just zoom the page up one as a workaround for now.
August 15, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
SPEED UP THE WORD PAGES. the lag is seriously on the brink of making the site unusable. i literally lose my train of thought sometimes waiting 10-20 seconds for the fucking page to load. this is not cool.
the site used to be instant. INSTANT. the way it should be. I'm on a super fast network too. all other major sites do not do this. the old wordnik pages don't do it either. just the new ones.
August 15, 2011
bourbonmots commented on the word new interface
Not sure if you’re still entertaining requests and also not sure if this has come up already, but I would like to have a See All option for the All Lists and All Open Lists pages. Or if there are so many lists that See All would make the scrolling function too sensitive, options of 500 or 1000 groupings would be helpful. As it stands right now, it’s pretty laborious trying to work through the lists 100 at a time. Also, the same option within a list would be nice (sweet tooth fairy has nearly 3000 listings).
It would also be nice if, in the future, the lists were dated as the comments on the word pages are. That way if you checked out a list from a word page, you could then go to an All Lists page and scroll down the see what other lists were created around the same time. It seems a fair number of lists have been inspired by other lists.
August 15, 2011
pgayed commented on the word new interface
@marky, take it easy guy. you are FREAKING OUT!
August 15, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
yep. indeed i am. they've added too many bells and whistles to the site and its on the brink of sucking.
it was done with no forewarning or input from the users either. thats the part that gets me.
if we had the choice to upgrade or go back to legacy / classic mode without the bugs.. everything would be cool. but no one seems to even care or address that. the sites broken. it is a big deal. click this word: supine. how long did it take for the page to load? it used to be instant.
August 15, 2011
reesetee commented on the word new interface
I must confess that the long page load time is what's been keeping me away for a while. It is frustrating.
August 15, 2011
dontcry commented on the word new interface
While we're focused on the pronunciation situation... it might be handy if, when you clicked on a word in 'Recent pronunciations,' you were taken to the bottom of the page - where the *pronunciations* are - will be. *flops back on porch swing*
August 16, 2011
sionnach commented on the word new interface
Marky is entirely correct, unfortunately. It took 40 seconds for Firefox to load the supine page, and that kind of lag is basically prohibitive. It's distressing to see a site self-immolate like this one.
August 16, 2011
chained_bear commented on the word new interface
Hi all, I've been away on maternity leave for many moons, and before that, insanely busy at work and home, so I just found this page. I logged in to agree with reesetee's comment, then discovered this whole page... that was three hours ago. (Still busy at work, I guess.) I'm heartened to see the continual striving for improvement here, and to see so many of my creaky old-timer buds from the days of yore. But it's also disheartening to see fifteen new things every time I visit--I hardly recognize the ol' place anymore--and wade through all the comments about things not working right--that's after I even find the comments in the first place... and with the page-load times, usually I just say "screw it" and go over to Facebook or some other place. (Which is getting frickin' boring, might I add.)
I do love the dates-on-comments thing. I haven't even poked around enough to see what else I like, though.
So... not sure there's anything actionable or even useful here, but I wanted to throw my coupla pennies in. And say Hi. So... Hi!
August 16, 2011
Prolagus commented on the word new interface
Hi everybody,
In the end I decided not to review the new interface, as I said I would on July 22. You can read all my comments on this page and on the feedback page (if it is ever restored). Almost four weeks after the "ten-day" promise, the website shows exactly the same bugs and a few more.
For instance, now that word pages are not split into subpages (such as word/comments, word/pronunciations etc.), why is the large-print word itself a link? It doesn't link to anything but itself.
Here I could add something vaguely bitter about what happened to the community and the website and the people behind it etc etc, but I don't have anything new to say. You can look at most of my recent comments and read them.
August 16, 2011
dontcry commented on the word new interface
Hey! I just heard the pronunciation of solder.
j.k. ...
Here's my Garrett Morris take on it:
SOLDER: PRONOUNCED - "SOD-ER" NOT "SOUL-DER"
August 16, 2011
sionnach commented on the word new interface
Prolagus wrote: "You can look at most of my recent comments and read them."
Clearly he hasn't plumbed the depths of the site's dysfunction. If you go to his profile page and click on the "Comments" link, you will find that it is broken.
August 17, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
Perhaps that's the Unknown Sodder, dc.
August 17, 2011
bilby commented on the word new interface
From Examples:
"They have switched to a new interface that doen not work at all.”
Profile: Rojo
August 17, 2011
dharma66 commented on the word new interface
how do you search for a profile?
August 17, 2011
marky commented on the word new interface
sionnach, yes. perhaps more distressing is that our complaints about things were seemingly ignored only to have the comments worked on and now they're broken too. everything makes no sense whats going on. i don't get it.
August 17, 2011
PossibleUnderscore commented on the word new interface
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed somewhere but I'm really too lazy to search for it amidst all these other comments:
Why am I unable to add words to my own lists??
August 17, 2011